Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
'Better Technology Isn’t The Solution To Ecological Collapse'
#1
Summary:

Quote:Virtually every government in the world is committed to pursuing economic growth: ever-expanding levels of extraction and consumption year on year.

We have known about this problem for decades now, but we've been told not to worry: As technology improves and becomes more efficient, we'll be able to keep growing the economy while nonetheless reducing our impact on the natural world.

So for growth to be green, we need to somehow get back down to 50 billion tons despite expanding the GDP. When green growth theory was first proposed, there was no evidence on whether it would actually work-it was purely speculative.

All have arrived at the same rather troubling conclusion: Even under best-case scenario conditions, absolute decoupling of GDP growth from material use is not possible on a global scale.

There are physical limits to material efficiency, and once we start to reach them then the scale effect of growth drives material use back up in the long run.

In the end you'll need a minimum amount of wood, and once you reach that limit, then any growth in table production is going to come along with a corresponding growth in wood use.

Our only plan for dealing with the ecological emergency that's staring us in the face is to hope that tech innovation and green growth will mitigate the coming disaster.

https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/better-te...2018/04/04
Reply
#2
Absolutely not, the only green technology is non-technology, I say i say.
Reply
#3
Cf. earth overshoot day.
Reply
#4
(Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:11:33 +0000, 08:11 AM)|0|__|0| Wrote: Absolutely not, the only green technology is non-technology, I say i say.

Hello I just signed in 5 minutes ago and I totally agree with you. It's the main reason why I signed to anti-civ I'm so tired of (anarco)-transhumanists. I feel invaded. First I was thinking it concerns only some techno-extremists but then I realized all our society is unconciously transhumanist and it's becoming worse every month at a very fast growing rate. their propaganda is working so easily in all sectors with very diferent kind of people from capitalists to anarchists passing trough antispecist, feminist, disgender, ecologists, workers, rich, poor. There is almost no opposition from legalists or revolutionaries. Without an active resistance transhumanism has an open boulevard downhill because "it's in the zeitgeist". All our societies are tending toward hyper technologizing of life. We are full optimistic even mecanic bees are seen as something good for ecology as we are killing all the "biologic" bees! Help!

I have always been against any theory of overpopulation or human-virus because I think we could (re)learn to use our world with consience . But because we are always more alienated from nature we lose even the posibility of understanding our bad behaviours... we are like blind.

(modern)technology destroyed our world. The society told us for the past 400 years that technology will help us to have better lifes. We know since 200 years that it was a lie but we still believe in it. -->The technology will save us from the technology...
-->And the state will save us from the state...
Are we stupid? I believe we are not. But I have no better explanation  :o(

sorry for my english
Reply
#5
Just wait until I finish my EMP machine, chinchi. They'll be sorry...
Reply
#6
(Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:21:01 +0000, 12:21 AM)chinchi Wrote:
(Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:11:33 +0000, 08:11 AM)|0|__|0| Wrote: Absolutely not, the only green technology is non-technology, I say i say.

Hello I just signed in 5 minutes ago and I totally agree with you. It's the main reason why I signed to anti-civ I'm so tired of (anarco)-transhumanists. I feel invaded. First I was thinking it concerns only some techno-extremists but then I realized all our society is unconciously transhumanist and it's becoming worse every month at a very fast growing rate. their propaganda is working so easily in all sectors with very diferent kind of people from capitalists to anarchists passing trough antispecist, feminist, disgender, ecologists, workers, rich, poor. There is almost no opposition from legalists or revolutionaries. Without an active resistance transhumanism has an open boulevard downhill because "it's in the zeitgeist". All our societies are tending toward hyper technologizing of life. We are full optimistic even mecanic bees are seen as something good for ecology as we are killing all the "biologic" bees! Help!

I have always been against any theory of overpopulation or human-virus because I think we could (re)learn to use our world with consience . But because we are always more alienated from nature we lose even the posibility of understanding our bad behaviours... we are like blind.

(modern)technology destroyed our world. The society told us for the past 400 years that technology will help us to have better lifes. We know since 200 years that it was a lie but we still believe in it. -->The technology will save us from the technology...
-->And the state will save us from the state...
Are we stupid? I believe we are not. But I have no better explanation  :o(

sorry for my english


A very good first post, welcome :).
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)