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  The Battle of Gatwick
Posted by: alexander - Sat, 22 Dec 2018 16:36:16 +0000, 04:36 PM - Forum: News & Action - Replies (1)

[Image: https://i.redd.it/lpxtl1vc0u521.jpg]

It's just too funny.

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  Implantable weight loss device
Posted by: alexander - Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:42:16 +0000, 02:42 PM - Forum: Health & Psyche - Replies (2)

The obesity epidemic is of course a big problem. It is entirely clear that we need drastic measurements on a societal and ecological level to address this staggering problem.

Or—you could get an implantable device that sends signals to your brain, so that it thinks that you're full, so you'll stop eating. «In laboratory testing, the devices helped rats shed almost 40 percent of their body weight.»

It's just such a blatantly idiotic thing, that you'd be forgiven to think it satire.


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  Breaking Bread with Uncle Ted
Posted by: @demon - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 19:59:30 +0000, 07:59 PM - Forum: Politics - Replies (3)

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For green anarchists, egoists and nihilists, when divorced from the larger narratives of the left, we are left with our own quests. Quests that are sometimes fraught with difficulty and conflict, just as much as they grant us the experience of adventures few get to achieve. Uncle Ted’s shadow still is cast on the ground and while his acolytes have largely  moved away from his vision and strategy of anti-industrial revolution, there still is a feeling that action for its own sake is worth pursuing.

In the age of Climate Change, the Anthropocene mass extinction event and the totalizing of society in a web so delicate to upset its balance would to destroy the integrity of our connectiveness. Seeking action in this environment is not a matter of achieving upheaval. Time and again small groups fail to rally the popular interest against nations and regimes, while vanguards move in to state power and use governing institutions to create minor political change. But no more is there a drive to dismantle the state from supposedly radical forces.

There is the rhetoric of revolution, insurrection; tough posing that that suggests rebellion, but the atmosphere created is not that of encouraging individual empowerment and activity. Rather, the dominant politic is centered on individual and group shaming, ostracism, petty ego bantering and other behaviors that are divisive in the name of unity. Only after crushing dissent can the movement roll forward, comrade.

Moving beyond this can be difficult because creating space away from these behaviors is less about physical space and more about social and virtual space. More about creating an entirely different internal dialogue that somehow both addresses the dominant politic while shifting the conversation from shame to desire. From suppressing the transgressions we don’t like to encouraging the transgressions we do. This is the most profound difference between the Apollonian and the Dionysian.

While the dominant politic complains about chains, points at them and shames those with weaker chains than others, we should be encouraging chains to be broken, to be unchained, to let our desires bloom and our wills express our drive for freedom. But how to?

Green anarchists have a long history of asking why. From many of our influences in the theories of anarcho-primitivism and deep ecology, we can understand the human at root (anarcho-primitivism), the world at root (deep ecology) and how the human impact on the world has been disastrous in one form or another.

It is not the origins of the problem we are dealing with. However, origins are part of our story, a story of why we are where we are. The importance of origins is that it exposes we aren’t rotten authoritarian savages at heart, but humans are also far less noble or neutral in how we’ve imposed control on each other and the world since before history has been recorded. Point made.

For how to, we can look far more recently. We see the actions of Freedom Club attributed to Ted Kaczynski, the actions of Earth First!, ALF, ELF and ITS. A short list in some ways, which aren’t counting the many other varieties green anarchists and related have also organized themselves. However, it is here we have been loudest and for good reason. Despite the rhetoric to the contrary, deeds are still great propaganda. While we aren’t necessarily aiming to hit them where it hurts, as we see the effects of climate change capable of far more damage than we could ever hope to cause as small groups, there is still the capability to inspire others, to carry forward a message that can change the conversation on what we are capable of.

In recent green anarchist texts, a new variety of activities have been opened up, but the takers haven been few. We are perhaps still in an infancy, hindered by time consuming activities from work to media interaction. To break this spell would be to promote and grow our face to face connections and expand on our lived time space with each other.

So the first how to. How to green anarchy is to break bread with each other. To share in conversations with each other and to see reason to connect with each other despite our flaws, rather than divide because of them. How to create green anarchy? Create trust, love and attention. The impact we would like to see in the world is not necessarily born from the most alienated, but rather, perhaps from those that want more connection to ourselves and to others. Alienated by society, yes, but not to the want of the social. To act from the love of the self, the planet, friends and family. It is those forces that prevent and divide us from our will to love that deserve our spite and give us our reason to fight.

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  Ecologist Says Trees Talk to Each Other in a Language We Can Learn
Posted by: BeerNRage - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:37:05 +0000, 03:37 PM - Forum: Environment - Replies (1)

Interesting article.  More proof that trees are not just inanimate things standing there.


Quote:"She discovered birch sent carbon to fir, especially when it was shaded. Later the opposite happened, when the birch was leafless in the winter, the fir sent over more carbon. Science had always believed that trees competed with each other for carbon, sunlight, water and nutrients. Simard’s groundbreaking work showed that trees are interdependent and cooperative, in fact they are immersed in deep relationships with each other."

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  Moving Asteroids for Cheap
Posted by: @demon - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:28:41 +0000, 10:28 AM - Forum: Science & Technology - Replies (2)

Here's something unbelievable: $224 million will get you a probe that can push an asteroid into any orbit you want. Meaning, theoretically, fucks knows which government has moved which asteroids to where.

Page 22 - http://kiss.caltech.edu/final_reports/As...report.pdf
The first time it was done, asteroid bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEAR_Shoem...nd_landing

Just for good measure, North Korea is estimated to have around 10,000 artillery pieces. At a cost of $1,500-80,000 a piece. That means their whole arsenal is worth as little as $15,000,000. The upper range would be $800,000,000. So, obviously, moving asteroids is way cheaper.

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  Hadza hut building
Posted by: Odin - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:04:22 +0000, 11:04 PM - Forum: Skills & Decivilising - Replies (3)

A group of Hadza hunter-gatherers build a traditional hut from baobab branches, sisal plants and grass.


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  John Jacobi, Ted fan
Posted by: jacobi - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:52:13 +0000, 08:52 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (8)

Hey, I'm John Jacobi. I spent a lot of time when I was younger putting Ted's writings online. Started a university group called "Freedom Club." etc. etc. I run a website called The Wild Will Project: http://www.wildwill.net 

NY Mag just featured me in an article about TK: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/t...lytes.html

I've seen this forum before, but expected it to die like the other anti-civ forums do. Happy to see that's not the case. 

Looking forward to some good discussions on here.

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  I really like the ideal of this place
Posted by: WasteLand - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:41:37 +0000, 08:41 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (2)

I have to do something positive

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Posted by: BeerNRage - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:25:02 +0000, 05:25 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (2)


I'm Beer & Rage.  I run a youtube channel where I talk about anarchy and stuff.  I've been into anti-civ ideas for a good decade now.  I've read AHAL three times, and am big into Perlman.

I've spent a decent amount of time in organized leftists groups/cults, and came to anti-civ ideas through anarchist activism.  I also write stuff sometimes. 

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxerb98...bUcY9AMkoA?

Blog - https://destroy.svbtle.com/

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  Anti-civ goes pop
Posted by: alexander - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:54:32 +0000, 09:54 AM - Forum: Everything else - Replies (22)

«Children of Ted: Two decades after his last deadly act of ecoterrorism, the Unabomber has become an unlikely prophet to a new generation of acolytes.»

This article has got Kaczynski, Jacobi, Kingsnorth, DGR, Atassa, ITS—in mainstream media. It's kind of odd. Of course it is missing Heidegger, Ellul, Camatte, Mumford, Illich, Næss, Watson, Perlman, Zerzan, Sale… any real seminal thinker you could care to name. To me this signals that the article is not primarily about ideas, but about this weird modern phænomenon that the mainstream doesn't fully understand. Still interesting though.


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