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Posted by: BeerNRage - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:25:02 +0000, 05:25 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (2)


I'm Beer & Rage.  I run a youtube channel where I talk about anarchy and stuff.  I've been into anti-civ ideas for a good decade now.  I've read AHAL three times, and am big into Perlman.

I've spent a decent amount of time in organized leftists groups/cults, and came to anti-civ ideas through anarchist activism.  I also write stuff sometimes. 

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxerb98...bUcY9AMkoA?

Blog - https://destroy.svbtle.com/

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  Anti-civ goes pop
Posted by: alexander - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:54:32 +0000, 09:54 AM - Forum: Everything else - Replies (22)

«Children of Ted: Two decades after his last deadly act of ecoterrorism, the Unabomber has become an unlikely prophet to a new generation of acolytes.»

This article has got Kaczynski, Jacobi, Kingsnorth, DGR, Atassa, ITS—in mainstream media. It's kind of odd. Of course it is missing Heidegger, Ellul, Camatte, Mumford, Illich, Næss, Watson, Perlman, Zerzan, Sale… any real seminal thinker you could care to name. To me this signals that the article is not primarily about ideas, but about this weird modern phænomenon that the mainstream doesn't fully understand. Still interesting though.


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  The Need for Method
Posted by: @demon - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 02:21:17 +0000, 02:21 AM - Forum: News & Action - Replies (10)

source - sent by a friend

The Need for Method
by Zhachev

As the level of popular combativity to the ecological crisis develops across the world, the need for action and theoretical clarity in the anti-civilization milieu is posed more sharply than ever. It is important that groupings should show themselves capable of drawing up a balance sheet of what has been achieved in this domain during the last two decades, and of learning its lessons for the future.

The grouping of ecoextremists can no longer be left to chance. It demands a consistent method, based on openness to debate, combined with a rigorous defense of principle.

Such a method must avoid two dangers: on the one hand, that of falling into “debate for debate’s sake”, mere academic chatter, in which everyone says what they like without any concern to establish a dynamic towards common action; on the other hand, the illusion that it is possible to engage in common work on a technical basis, without first being clear on principles — principles which can only be determined by open debate.

Ecoextremists have a task to accomplish: the permanent destruction of mass industrial civilization and his-story itself. In carrying out this task, our agency is presently extremely limited. Ecoextremists therefore have a responsibility to intervene against the continued destruction of the wilderness, in order to defend nature, and to work for the end of society.

We should be in no doubt about the eventual purpose of this aggroupment, which is the formation of a decentralized and highly coordinated armed fighting force, the last one, without which a successful defense of nature against the state is an impossibility.

The work of aggroupment has several facets, related but distinct:

- the integration of individual ecoguerillas into decentralized, highly-coordinated groupings, since the very principle of the defense of nature is that of decentralize collective action on the basis of a common commitment to the end of civilization;

- the groups emerging in the periphery of the most difficult conditions of material deprivation and political isolation can only survive, and play their role in the worldwide attack on the state and civilization, if they can break out of their isolation and become part of a wider movement;

- finally, all ecodefenders, and above all what we may term the old groups (those with a direct historical role in the defense of nature in the past) have a responsibility to show the rest of us that there is a fundamental difference, a clear line, drawn between all those groups and organizations which stand firm on the defense of nature without compromise, and those groups, organizations, and parties who are committed to the principles of non-violence, which we oppose. In other words, the ecoextremists must clearly delimit and defend a holistic, naturalistic, pluralist anti-political milieu.


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  The Vanishing World of a Hunter Gatherer
Posted by: Odin - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:28:57 +0000, 11:28 PM - Forum: Anthropology & History - No Replies

The Il Torobo are an H-G group who live alongside the Maasai in Kenya, Africa.

A hunter-gatherer with no formal schooling, Letilet’s knowledge about the world he inhabits and of botanical facts is remarkable. Equipped by his upbringing and ancestral traditions with skills for survival in their natural landscape, Letilet and his friends are now forced to make a quantum leap into the twenty-first century. Letilet now uses a solar-powered mobile phone and drives a car.

Susie, born and living in Kenya, has over forty years of experience in luxury tented safaris in Kenya and tourism in Africa. She managed her own successful safari camp, Ol Seki Mara Camp in the Koiyaki Group Ranch north of the Maasai Mara Game Reserve. Here she met Letilet and indulged in her passion for plants, traditional artefacts and wild places. She feels blessed to have had the friendship of Letilet and all those who made this book happen.



Also, a short film:


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  Now Hiring Anti-civ Writers!
Posted by: @demon - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:23:11 +0000, 11:23 PM - Forum: News & Action - No Replies

Hey ya'll:

I'm putting together an anti-civ journal called Incendia, as some of you may be aware. It will be print-only, and priced competitively, in order to profit from the comfortable middle class and above lifestyle of some in the milieu.

I'm looking for art, articles, poetry, etc. to publish. Depending on the subject and length of the article, I'm offering $0.02-0.04 per word in USD.

Shoot me an DM if interested.

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  Inuit Lifeways
Posted by: Odin - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 23:21:51 +0000, 11:21 PM - Forum: Anthropology & History - Replies (3)

During this time of year, I am enjoying rediscovering these old films by the NFB from the early 1960s. I remember watching some of these in school as a child.  They give insight into the traditional lifeways of the Inuit, Inuvialuit of the Western Canadian arctic, and Inupiat of Eastern Alaska.

This is a series called Tuktu (a fictional name, but probably derived from Tuktoyuktuk, a town in the far north.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuktoyaktuk

Tuktu 1: Clothing and its Importance


Tuktu 2: How to build a kayak


Tuktu 3: Hand Skills


Tuktu 4: How to build a snow palace igloo


Tuktu 5: Indoor games


Tuktu 6: More indoor games


Tuktu 7: Fishing with a Rock Weir


Tuktu 8: The Magic Bow


Tuktu 9: The Magic Spear


Tuktu 10: The Caribou Hunt


Tuktu 11: Seal Hunting


Tuktu 12: Dogs and their importance


Tuktu 13: Animal Friends of the Arctic



Encyclopedia Britannica film about an Inuit family in 1959:


(I'm thinking this could be from Alaska, judging from the clothing, facial features and the landscape. So probably the Yupik Eskimo, rather than Canadian Inuit)

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  Earth First!
Posted by: @demon - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:18:12 +0000, 09:18 PM - Forum: Politics - Replies (4)

I'd like to start a discussion on the Earth First! group and its history.

Founded after a long campaign of climate action in the `60s and `70s, which was perceived as going mainstream, EF!s first leaders were Ed Abbey (author of The Monkeywrench Gang and Hayduke Lives!), Dave Foreman, and a few others.

Abbey has an interesting story. WWII veteran, later conscientious objector (which landed him on the FBI watchlist for the duration of his life) and deep green anarchist. Dave Foreman is similar, but I haven't paid enough attention to know the specificities.

They were both alienated at times for "racism". I'm not completely sure where this comes from, besides both of them being European-Americans and opposing immigration to North America, both legal and otherwise, on the basis it was good for the climate. Abbey's sexual politics were quite bad as well, similar to people like Derrick Jensen and Lierre Kieth today. Ed Abbey wasn't quite anti-civ by his own measures, but was accused of being so by the American press. Here are his own words on the subject:

Quote:“I was accused of being against civilization, against science, against humanity. Naturally, I was flattered and at the same time...how, I replied, being myself a member of humanity (albeit involuntarily, without prior consultation), could I be against humanity without being against myself, whom I love - though not very much...” (Desert Solitaire)

So you can see he's in a slightly different realm than us. But anyway.

I'm making this post to hopefully begin a comprehensive critique, which I might submit to the EF! journal at a later point. I have spent about six months of this year participating in Earth First! events, and other related stuff. I know how it works quite well. Since I no longer want to participate, I hope to figure out why, to communicate the problems surrounding this organization and its logic.

The EF! slogan, "No compromise in defense of Mother Earth!", is something I think about almost daily. It really sounded great when I first heard it. But it really bothers me know. For one thing, the anthropomorphism of the phrase "Mother" Earth is something I can't get behind. "No compromise in defense of nature!" is better. But what really bothers me about it is that everyone apart of the network absolutely compromises in defense of nature all the time.

In the `90s, a group of EF!ers splintered to form the ELF. They did property damage. Lots of it. They also catalyzed an FBI crackdown, which is referred to colloquially in the US as "The Green Scare", and it still has operational and tactical influence over the resistance movement.

US government officials and the press have referenced to the US climate change resistance as terroristic on numerous occasions. Terrorism to me is such a bullshit concept. Abbey’s own words can shed some light on this, stating ‘The most common form of terrorism in the U.S.A. is that carried on by bulldozers and chain saws.”

I think this a dumb position to take. Here’s why: what one person calls a terrorist is anothers freedom warrior. Ed Abbey himself had used both bulldozers and chainsaws in actions against the industrial monster.

At this point I think we should just own what I think is a sound tactic: violence. Earth First! considers itself a non-violent organization, as did ALF and ELF. I don’t know where this comes from. The idea is that human life is sacred (C’mon...really?), but also to avoid the repression of the State. Well, that didn’t work. So what’s the deal? Is it a moral argument? Fuck civilization!

Here’s another way anti-violence kicks us in the ass and defangs us: dealing with state security and provocateurs. Their modus operandi since at least the `70s has been to send it lone wolfs who want more extreme action. Sometimes this gets people on the side of wild nature wrapped up in conspiracy charges. But it also ends up alienating the lone militant, searching for comrades, action, and support.

I propose these groups start considering how to use violence effectively, as to not alienate searching elements, while also avoiding state security infiltration and repression. For some reason, Americans see this as impossible, and I find that ignorant and cowardly. The Jewish people, during active pogroms and persecutions, including the Nazi Holocaust, went from being scattered all over the world, to land occupations, to forming defense organizations, an army, and a state, in less than a half century. Three years after the holocaust was perpetrated, Israel was founded. Consider again our possibilities. Consider the operational history of groups like MEND and Hezbollah. Do people avoid "terror' at the behest of the state and for no other reason than fear of imprisonment, injury, and death? Cowardice! What happened to "No compromise!"?

I think a discussion of the film "Night Moves" (a reference to what Abbey called his nighttime sabotaging operations) would be a good place to start.

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  Two very different interpretations of our dwindling grip strength
Posted by: @demon - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:23:20 +0000, 08:23 PM - Forum: Science & Technology - No Replies

When she was a practicing occupational therapist, Elizabeth Fain started noticing something odd in her clinic: Her patients were weak. More specifically, their grip strengths, recorded via a hand-held dynamometer, were “not anywhere close to the norms” that had been established back in the 1980s.

Fain knew that physical activity levels and hand-use patterns had changed a lot since then. Jobs had become increasingly automated, the professional and service sectors had grown, all sorts of measures of physical activity (like the likelihood that a child walks to school) had declined, and the personal computer age had dawned. But to see the numbers decline so steeply and quickly was still a surprise, and not just to her.


A bit later in the article:

"Witness, for example, the palmaris longus, the tendon that connects your forearm to your palm (and which becomes visible, in many people, when you flex your palm upward). The muscle, according to one hypothesis, was once important for tasks like brachiation, but has been slowly declining in humans. In some cultures some 63 percent of people no longer have it. As one group of researchers notes, “if human evolution continues along similar lines wherein the muscle belly [the sum of all the muscle fibers] continues to phylogenetically reduce, it is expected that this muscle will eventually not be found in humans.”15

This inverse correlation between grip strength and civilization has been both celebrated and debated over the centuries. Jean-Jacques Rousseau saw in civilization a weakening of “all the vigor of which the human species was capable.” The French explorer François Perón, intent on discrediting Rousseau’s argument, brought an early Régnier dynamometer to Tasmania to test the strength of “savage man” against his own sailors. The more “savage” the people, Peron reported, contra Rousseau, the weaker they were. He took his grip strength tests as conclusive proof against the then-fashionable argument “that the physical degeneration of man follows the perfection of civilization.”

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  How to Build an Igloo
Posted by: Odin - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 08:42:07 +0000, 08:42 AM - Forum: Skills & Decivilising - Replies (2)

Old NFB film on the traditional Inuit method of constructing an igloo.


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  Northeast Anti tech Anarchist Homesteader
Posted by: Hoot - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 20:00:55 +0000, 08:00 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (4)

Heard about this forum on John Zerzan's  radio show. Was curious about Zerzan after reading Technological Slavery by Kaczynski. Would be excited to collaborate with like minded's in NH,Maine, New England area
That's the main reason I'm here.
 Would love to chat with a few of you from other areas inside this land mass either way. Looks like some good folks here. 
                          A few of my thoughts:
1) Instead of posting too much usable "data" pertaining to ourselves for the system to gobble up I like intelligence sharing on enemy (system) specifics: Where the newest wind farms are going up? Where the data storage centers are located? What are the most important (to the controllers) technological advancement projects happening? What are the latest scientific achievements that are important to the "controllers"?
Who & where are the leaders in technological and scientific advancements that the "controllers" hold dear.   Basically sharing intel. After all, the system knows enough about us. It's time to use this god damned thing (computer) to find out specifics on system advancement supporters. 
        What's the address of Dr Steven H Walker ? (he's the director of D.A.R.P.A.)
Just an example of info that I think we should make public (at least on this forum)
 2) We don't want to be hypocrites right ?  Advocating for anti tech whilst using the internet.
I am looking to set examples and organize enough of us to go OFFLINE for a MONTH to not only reduce the "DATA" the the controller's are feeding off of but hopefully, with the help from some savvy hackers confuse the hell out of the algorythims (or whatever the fuck they're called).
Basically overload the data centers with bullshit and then disappear for a month (for starters)
I think we should do this early in 2019. 
 3) I believe in an incremental road to Revolution that we can all nudge along. Kaczynski says to promote Revolution you must live oppositely from what the system requires. (Anti-Civ. right ?)
Has all to do with INDEPENDENCE. Removing the BS from our lives.
               Thanks, Hoot

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